RE: RARA-AVIS: westner vs noir, cowboy vs private eye

From: Mark Sullivan (
Date: 05 Jul 2009

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    Bengt, You will definitely want to check out John Cawelti's Adventure, Mystery, and Romance: Formula Stories as Art and Popular Culture. He traces the PI genre back to Cooper's Leatherstocking tales: You might also want to check out his earlier Six-Gun Mystique. I haven't read the revised "sequel," but the original was one of the first things I read on genre and quite impressed my thinking: And I seem remember William Ruehlman's Saint with a Gun: The Unlawful Private Eye touching on his western roots: Mark

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    > Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 18:47:32 +0200
    > Subject: RARA-AVIS: westner vs noir, cowboy vs private eye
    > I´m reading all of James Crumley to write a piece - presentation, essay,
    > whatever - om him for a Swedish book about noir and hard boiled crime
    > authors. The american private eye is/was always a relative to the american
    > cowboy but it seems to me that Crumley´s fiction is/was the closest to
    > western/cowboy novels that american noir crime novels will ever get.
    > So I´m thinking about the connection between the two - or the one -
    > genre(s), between american crime novels and the myth of the american western
    > and cowboy myth. Has there been anything written about this? Am I right? You
    > have any thoughts that can send me in the right direction when I start
    > writing? Any suggestion of other american crime writers who come close to
    > western cowboy novels - or writers of cowboy fiction who come close to crime
    > novels? Or anything!
    > Bengt Eriksson
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