RE: RARA-AVIS: westner vs noir, cowboy vs private eye

From: Ron Clinton (
Date: 05 Jul 2009

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    Ed Gorman and H.A. Derosso come to my mind when I think of stories where the blending of noir and western is thematically seamless, a perfect blending of the two.

    I think it was Bill Pronzini (himself an author of western and crime novels) who called Derosso the Cornell Woolrich of the western genre (or words to that effect).

    What I've read of Derosso I really like...I should read more.

    Ron C.

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    > Behalf Of Bengt Eriksson / Media I Morron I Dag
    > Sent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 9:48 AM
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    > Subject: RARA-AVIS: westner vs noir, cowboy vs private eye
    > I´m reading all of James Crumley to write a piece - presentation, essay,
    > whatever - om him for a Swedish book about noir and hard boiled crime
    > authors. The american private eye is/was always a relative to the american
    > cowboy but it seems to me that Crumley´s fiction is/was the closest to
    > western/cowboy novels that american noir crime novels will ever get.
    > So I´m thinking about the connection between the two - or the one -
    > genre(s), between american crime novels and the myth of the american
    > and cowboy myth. Has there been anything written about this? Am I right?
    > have any thoughts that can send me in the right direction when I start
    > writing? Any suggestion of other american crime writers who come close to
    > western cowboy novels - or writers of cowboy fiction who come close to
    > novels? Or anything!
    > Bengt Eriksson
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