Re: RARA-AVIS: Cyberpunk Recomendation?

From: Tribe (
Date: 05 Oct 2005

On 10/5/05,Jess wrote:

> Well, certainly Blade Runner was enormously influential on
> first-generation
> cyberpunk and was in turn influenced by hardboiled novels, but the
> influence
> of hardboiled detective fiction goes beyond the film. Where do you think
> the
> persona of the first-generation (which is quite different from
> second-generation
> cyberpunk, to which my generalizations no longer apply) protagonist comes
> from?
> The non-cyberspace milieu of first-generation cyberpunk is almost always
> urban,
> and the protagonist is often a hardbitten, cynical loner with a romantic
> streak
> and a firm code of ethics. Hell, even the early cyberpunk
> novelist--Gibson's
> earliest, and his immediate imitators--were aping Chandler's style.

I'm sure you'd agree that urban settings and cynical, loner protagonists, in and of themselves, don't necessarily equate to hard boiled. Aside from that, there has to be that thing we call "style" to make it hardboiled. If Gibson and the others were trying to write in that style, then I totally missed it
'cause I don't see it. Admittedly, it's been some time since I read those.


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