Sandra, read Derek Raymond's factory series. It's a series, and it's
extremely noir (and maybe also the greatest crime series written).
Don't believe me, try the books.
--Dave
--- In rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com, "Sandra Ruttan" <sandraruttan@...>
wrote:
>
> I'll leave it to others - I won't bite. I've had these conversations.
>
> But I will say this: noir is extremely overused, to the point where
> it's been so diluted it's a meaningless term and I do think that it's
> extremely difficult, if not impossible, for a series to be truly noir.
> It may be dark, but that's not really the same thing.
>
> I'll sit back with my popcorn now that I've stirred the pot, but to
> bring it back to point, I've since had it pointed out to me The
> Coldest Mile has been referred to as a sequel. Haven't had a chance to
> check yet if it's really is just a sequel, or if it's a series. That
> again may prompt me to readjust my assessment.
>
> Cheers,
> Sandra
>
> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 2:27 PM, Brian Thornton
> <bthorntonwriter@...> wrote:
> > Gee, how did I know that a thread that combined the words "noir,"
"strict'
> > and "definition" would draw Jim's attention!
> >
> > ;)
> >
> > Let the games begin (again.... and.... again... and...)
> >
> > All the Best-
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:24 AM, JIM DOHERTY <jimdohertyjr@...>wrote:
> >
> >> Sandra,
> >>
> >> Re your comment below:
> >>
> >> "In truth, it's very hard to do a series that's truly noir,
because the
> >> strictest definitions of noir require the death or destruction
(ie: in
> >> an asylum) of the protagonist in the end."
> >>
> >> The strcitest definitions of noir require that it be a crime
story that an
> >> atmosphere that is dark and sinister. ANything stricter than that is
> >> simply
> >> incorrect.
> >>
>
>
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