Re: RARA-AVIS: Maltese Falcon

From: Nathan Cain (
Date: 25 May 2008

People lie all the time when they rear the consequences of the truth. If that makes someone crazy then we're all nuts. Even little children lie. Psychotics exhibit symptoms like hallucinations and thought disorders. A psychotic doesn't think she's lying, and there's the big difference. Brigid doesn't see things that aren't there, and her actions, to me, seems more Machiavellian than they do crazy. She's playing for keeps, and she has an ends justify the means philosophy.

On Fri, May 23, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Patrick King <> wrote:
> --- Nathan Cain <> wrote:
>> I disagree. I think Brigid was acting rationally
>> when sh deceived
>> Spade and Archer.
> The only rationality in O'Shaunghnessy's behavior is
> on her own terms. Every day private detectives are
> asked to recover missing or stolen items. Cairo comes
> into Spades office and tells him what he wants him to
> locate. Now the idea of also mugging him in his own
> office shows that Cairo is also out of touch but he's
> trying. O'Shaunghnessy comes in with a half-baked tale
> about a sister who doesn't exist. We have no reason to
> think Floyd Thursby is a killer except that
> O'Shaughnessy tells us he is. Spade quickly susses
> that Thursby and Jacoby think they're helping a damsel
> in distress. She's completely crazy. The fact that she
> MAY profit from her scheme if she can pull it off in
> no way mitigates her delusion. Most psychotics do
> profit from their illness. On the other hand, does
> O'Shaughnessy have any idea what she'll do with the
> Falcon if she gets it? How she'll sell it? Sell it
> back to the Greek they stole it from? On these
> questions, the book is silent. Manipulating your
> mother into marrying a millionaire is greedy scheming.
> Murdering people to acquire a "dingus" is completely
> delusional.
>> Now, on a certain level, I do agree with you about
>> the people pursuing
>> the Falcon being a bit nuts. They're obsessed, but I
>> don't think
>> they're psychotic. Their actions make too much
>> sense.
> Well, I've given you my definition of psychotic fairly
> extensively and these folks fit the shoe. What's your
> definition of psychotic? How crazy do people have to
> be in your book? These people are about as delusional
> as people can be without blabbering. One can argue
> that much of Guttman's condescending diatribe is
> blabbering. How do you think his "history of the
> Falcon" played during his trial? Ted Bundy is saner
> than any of these Falcon hunters!
> Patrick King

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