Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: The definition of literature

From: Patrick King (
Date: 05 Nov 2007

And for certain Poe, Wilkie Collins and Doyle are classic literature and they're the absolute father's and grandfathers of the genre. The question is, is E.W. Hornung classic literature? He was Doyle's brother-in-law. His characters, Raffles the Amateur Cracksman, and Stingeree the Austrailian bushranger, were very popular, made into a highly successful movies. But does anyone read him now?

Some make it, some don't.

Patrick King
--- Jack Bludis <> wrote:

> JIM DOHERTY said, among other things:
> >>On the other hand, as William has pointed out, if
> some
> people are too small-minded to see the worth of a
> Hammett, or a Chandler, or a Conan Doyle, or, for
> that
> matter, a Spillane, so what?
> >>Why should we care? As far as I'm concerned, the
> whole question of whether or not crime fiction is
> literature is settled. We won.<<
> I'm not sure who "we" is, but I'm also not sure that
> whether Crime Fiction can be literature has been our
> question. The question is, I think, WHICH pieces of
> crime
> fiction are literature, and which authors do others
> as well
> as we on Rara consider literature?
> Remember that part of the m-w definition of
> literature:
> "Writings having excellence of form or expression
> and
> expressing ideas of permanent or universal
> interest."
> Hammett and Chandler have already made the grade, at
> least
> I think they have. I'd bet dollars to dimes, that
> most on
> Rara consider them lierature.
> Jack Bludis
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