Re: RARA-AVIS: Types of noir (was Re: Pop. 1280)

Date: 01 Aug 2007

Is The Big Heat the book on which the 1953 Lee Marvin movie of the same name is based ? Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

-----Original Message----- From: "Allan Guthrie" <>

Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 14:59:32 To:<> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Types of noir (was Re: Pop. 1280)

I'd suggest that many of David Goodis's protagonists are victims of circumstance.
 How about the protagonist of THE ROAD? I didn't spot the part where he transgresses, but he steals to survive so I suppose it depends whose morals we're talking about.
 Several Woolrich protagonists are non-transgressing victims.
 Stephen King's MISERY -- unless killing off a fictional character is a moral transgression.
 I'd also suggest that in McGivern's THE BIG HEAT, the protagonist is doomed the moment his car explodes (ie before he commits any act of transgression).
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: Michael Robison
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 Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:46 PM
 Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Types of noir (was Re: Pop. 1280)
 Kerry J. Schooley wrote:
 In noir the characters are doomed regardless of
 whether their behaviour is moral, normal, ethical or
 Can you list five noir novels where the protagonist is
 doomed but has committed no moral transgression?
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