Re: RARA-AVIS: RE: The meaning of hardboiled

From: Mario Taboada (
Date: 11 Jul 2000

<<And a follow up question to those two. Both Jon L. Jackson and James Crumley were under Raymond Carver's tutelage in some form or another during their early writing lives: How does Carver's influence turn up in their work? Or perhaps the question should be, does his influence show up in their work?>>

Both Crumley and Jackson have a superior technique. That's the obvious part. I don't know to what extent Carver influenced them personally, or whether there is any trace of such influence in their writings. I don't see much resemblance between the late Carver and his former students. That probably means that he was a good teacher. Didn't someone mention that Constantine had also been in Carver's Iowa workshop? I've never heard this anywhere but here (I forget who mentioned it).

I think another superior writer who passed through Iowa is Stephen Greenleaf.



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