RARA-AVIS: Re: CORRECTION: Hammett/Kurosawa & Analytic Methods

From: Dick Lochte ( dlock@ix.netcom.com)
Date: 19 Apr 2000

>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 16:48:45 -0700
>From: Keith Alan Deutsch < keithdeutsch@earthlink.net>
>Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS:Hammett and Kurosawa & Analytic Methods:
> Read the Hammett article, and noticed that it repeated as fact, a claim
> seen at times in discussions here, namely that Kurosawa got his idea
> Yojimbo
> from Red Harvest.
> I do see some similarities, but I sure see some big differences too.
> of the Kurosawa or Hammett biographers has made this claim and what
> did he
> or she give? I'd like something more substantial than
> Bill Hagen
> I'm not sure who, if any, of the Hammett biographers made the claim.
> Kurosawa denied the Hammett connection, just as Leone denied that
> of Dollars" was inspired by "Yojimbo." But the films' plots speak for
> themselves. ........ To my mind, the similarities are
> substantial enough to justify the claim.
> Dick Lochte

>Dear Dick and Bill,

> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 17:27:24 -0700
>From: Keith Alan Deutsch < keithdeutsch@earthlink.net>
>Subject: RARA-AVIS: Re:CORRECTION: Hammett/Kurosawa & Analytic Methods

>Keith Alan Deutsch wrote:

>I must disagree with Dick's analytic paradigm that if you see enough
>and the timing makes influence or copying possible, that it is ok to
conclude a
>direct influence was likely.

>There is a concept in intellectual property, roughly stated, that if two
works of
>art are created with independent inspiration--although shockingly
similar---there is
>no infringement, even if it was possible for the alleged infringer to have
seen or
>heard the original work of art.

>This concept is very harder to win with because it is so hard to prove "no
>& independent creation." See George Harrison defense attempt in
infringement suit
>over song "My Sweet Lord" (I think original song title that won the
litigation was
>"He's So Fine.")

>Proving a direct influence is very difficult in court, also. Documentary
>is really important i.e. Lucas admitting in public how Kurosawa's Castle
of Blood
>was inspiration for first Star Wars film.


Dear Bill and Keith,

I guess you guys are right. I just thought that the scene where Toshiro Mifune wakes up with a sake hangover and finds the dead geisha with his sword through her heart was a tip-off.


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