Whether or not it's ghoulish revelry, I'm afraid I don't get the "noir"
aspect of the "bar noir" title, either -- no more than a bank robbery that
left patrons and tellers wounded would be "bank noir," or a convenience
market holdup that has the teller take a shot to the chest would be "market
noir." Not only is there a world of difference, as Brian points out,
between fiction and reality, but also between noir and senseless street
crime.
Ron C.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of Brian Thornton
> Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:40 AM
> To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: bar noir
>
> I just have to say this: NO, I don't "gotta love this joint."
>
> Talking about noir/hardboiled fiction is one thing entirely, and yes, I
get
> it that violence is a part of hard-boiled/noir literature, and I further
get
> it that literature is a reflection of the human condition, and I'm also
fine
> with that, because it's *fiction*.
>
> But I just find it positively ghoulish to revel in actual real world
> violence such as that reported below.
>
> I hope every one of the victims, including the owner, makes a full and
> speedy recovery.
>
> All the Best-
>
> Brian
>
> On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 7:16 AM, Frederick Zackel <fzackel@wcnet.org>
wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I just saw this in the Cleveland Plain Dealer. Ya gotta love this joint!
> >
> > Two arrested, five shot at Cleveland bar; councilman wants it to close
> >
> > Posted by Michael Sangiacomo/Plain Dealer Reporter July 16, 2009 07:22AM
> > Categories: Breaking News, Crime, Real Time News
> >
> > UPDATED 5:10 p.m.
> >
> > CLEVELAND - A 49-year-old Cleveland bar owner was critically injured and
> > four other people hurt early Thursday in a shootout at the Bottom's Up
Cafe
> >
> > at East 71st Street and Superior Avenue.
> >
> > Carlton Story was in intensive care at Huron Hospital with a gunshot
wound
> > to the hip. None of the other victims' injuries were life-threatening.
In
> > addition to fighting to regain his health, Story will have to fight to
keep
> >
> > his bar open.
> >
> > Ward 7 Councilman T.J. Dow said he had planned to ask the owner to
> > voluntarily close and surrender his liquor license. Dow said he was
sorry
> > that Story was shot but the incident was the last straw for the night
spot.
> >
> > "It's been a problem since Fannie Lewis was councilperson for that
ward,"
> > he
> > said. "I know she tried to shut it down. It has flipped owners several
> > times, but the same problems persist. Neighbors are always complaining
> > about
> > gunfire at the bar, especially at closing time."
> >
> > Oh, there's more, but ... haHA! Love it!
> >
> > Bottom's up, gents!
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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