savages/winslow Re: RARA-AVIS: An Interesting Recent Read

From: sonny (
Date: 25 Nov 2010

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    cool. i never heard of thayer. in fact, i don't think i've ever heard of a male having the first name Tiffany.

    i'm familiar with chas fort and this book sounds good, although i would prefer a voice that wasn't breezy, i suspect. what would one call a non-breezy voice?

    speaking of voice, i'm still not sure what the fuck don winslow did with Savages and if i loved it, hated it or both.

    certainly i enjoyed the story and characters and would recommend it, but he really went for some kind of je ne sai quoi style. at times, i thought of ellroy. at times, ken bruen. i think it got in the way for me, at least sometimes. i realize he was speaking the lingo of socal and mexico and marijuana, but i guess i wasn't sure if he was showing off or was simply good and i didn't like the characters who thought and spoke that way.

    i'll still be reading whatever winslow writes, that's for sure.

    --- On Thu, 11/25/10, David Rachels <> wrote:

    > From: David Rachels <>
    > Subject: RARA-AVIS: An Interesting Recent Read
    > To:
    > Date: Thursday, November 25, 2010, 12:52 PM
    > I saw a reference to Tiffany Thayer
    > as an early hardboiled writer, and, knowing of Thayer only
    > as the founder of the Fortean Society, I was curious to read
    > one of his hardboiled books. Trolling around the internet,
    > however, I couldn't find anything that I trusted as an
    > authoritative list of his work, and I ended up in Stanford's
    > Copyright Renewal Database. There I found, among the novels
    > copyrighted by Thayer, Five Million in Cash, which the
    > database indicated had been published under the pseudonym of
    > O. B. King. This seemed promising, and it was cool to
    > discover, upon further research, that no one (prior to
    > this!) seems to have connected Thayer to this novel. So you
    > heard it here first, folks.
    > And now about the book: Ben Flinders, an ordinary guy who
    > works as a car painter in New York City, gets out of bed one
    > morning and finds himself standing ankle-deep in money. He
    > has no idea where the money came from, but he decides that
    > he will keep it. After this, he proves to be somewhat
    > skillful and more than somewhat lucky as he negotiates life
    > on the run from two warring mob bosses. Published in 1932,
    > Five Million in Cash is a clear forerunner to the Everyman
    > noir that became a Gold Medal staple in the 1950s, but with
    > one crucial difference: Though the novel features numerous
    > shoot-outs and much bloodshed, its voice is so breezy that
    > it is impossible to imagine that Ben is ever in any real
    > danger. Lightweight, but enjoyable.
    > Best,
    > David R.
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