Charles, the 5% figure I guessed at (and I think is accurate for my situation) were for both ARCs and giveaways--with the giveaways being the books that are given away at book shows. 10-20K mass paperback runs like the norm from I've heard, but for independent publishers print runs for trade paperbacks and hardcovers tend to be smaller.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "hardcasecrime" <editor@...> wrote:
> I can't speak for any publisher but myself, but I can tell you that we
> might print 100-200 ARCs of any given title and I don't think we've ever
> printed fewer than 10,000-20,000 copies of the finished book. So for
> us, at least, ARCs are never more than 1% of the print run.
> Of course, there are other publishers who only print 2,000 or 5,000
> copies of a finished book...but even they are unlikely to print more
> than 100-200 ARCs (if that many).
> So the only way you could possibly get up to 5% is if your ultimate
> print run is really awful (and your publisher is nevertheless
> mysteriously generous with ARC production).
> --- In email@example.com, mhall@ wrote:
> > > I haunt a lot of used bookstores -- well, perhaps not a *lot* since
> > > fewer and fewer of these operations around -- but would agree the
> > > make
> > > up a very insignificant amount...in my experience, in fact, much
> less than
> > > Dave's number... probably a fraction of a percent.
> > From the used bookstores in my area they are usually to be found in
> > TPB section. At times though, there can be a fair number in this size
> > section.
> > Best, MEH
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