This discussion reminds me of a novel idea floated in the late 60's aiming at giving residuals for artists (painters and sculptors) in the form of a % on the re-sale of their works over the years, i.e a struggling painter sells his work for say $1,000 to a collector, said collector re-sells it years later for $10,000, and the artist gets a % of the capital gains. Hard to implement. Went down the tube. Resurfaces every so often.
jean-pierre jacquet
On May 5, 2010, at 10:41 AM, gsp.schoo@MOT.com wrote:
> Yes, but it's a paradigm. I have a musician friend who gets pennies annually. We exist in an economy. We seem to require the economy be based on some form of perceived value. Moaning about the morality or ideology of it is how the wrangling begins.
>
> Kerry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Sullivan
> To: rara-avis
> Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 12:46 AM
> Subject: RE: RARA-AVIS: Used Books and ethics
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> "Much as recording artists get paid when their tunes are played on the radio airwaves."
> No, the record companies and publishers get paid when the tunes get played on the radio, as they have usually wrangled the recordings and publishing rights from the artists.
> Mark
>
> > To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
> > From: gsp.schoo@murderoutthere.com
> > Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 10:44:10 -0400
> > Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Used Books and ethics
> >
> > I know that when it comes to, umm, literrraturrre, you guys get excited pondering the minutest details of, uh, oh, guilt and more, more, morality, that it's no wonder thoughts turn so quickly to ohhh books in the bathroom but I think the question reveals more about the failure to develop a system of compensation that dates back to the industrial era.
> >
> > When books are purchased and borrowed from a library a small fee for the public lending rights in Canada, just as a small fee is paid for photocopying in educational institutions, government bodies and an increasing number of private companies. Much as recording artists get paid when their tunes are played on the radio airwaves. It's not perfect yet but computer software is ideal for keeping track of such details. For used books it's maybe not so easy to keep track. Used book stores could pay an annual fee through, say a professional association, based either on gross sales or by scanning the bar-code ISBN numbers on individual books. Payments could be doled out annually to registered authors and publishers.
> >
> > Similar systems could apply elsewhere in the changing publishing industry.
> >
> > Sorry for the letdown,
> > Kerry
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Anthony Dauer
> > To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 8:37 AM
> > Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Used Books and ethics
> >
> >
> >
> > Naw, I stick by it. Your argument doesn't hold up. If I purchase new
> > parts, they're NEW parts. They still do not receive any money from the
> > resale of the car. If I could purchase a new paper cover from the
> > publisher to replace the old one on the used hardcover book I
> > purchased or a page or some other PART of the book, then there would
> > at least be a correlation, but the book publisher and the author are
> > still not receiving additional money unless they are actually the ones
> > reselling the used copy.
> >
> > I prefer new books myself. I only purchase used books if there is no
> > longer a new one to buy. I like that new book smell. Could care less
> > where its been.
> >
> > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 8:25 PM, davezeltserman
> > <Dave.Zeltserman@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > not good analogies since when you buy a used car the manufacturer could very well get additional revenue if you later buy parts from the manufacturer to fix your car. The restaurant would probably be buying from a food wholesaler, but regardless of where they buy the food from, the food is being bought to sell to an end user. Now if the restaurant staff ate the food, regurgitated it, and resold it after that, your analogy would hold.
> > >
> > > As a kid I used to buy a lot of used books, now as I've gotten older I'd just as soon buy books that I know haven't been taken into bathrooms, etc.
> >
> > --
> > Anthony Dauer
> > Annandale, Virginia, US
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