Re: dave z. Re: RARA-AVIS: In New York again

From: Joy Matkowski (jmatkowski1@comcast.net)
Date: 08 Feb 2010

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    "Outsourced"? Are you really putting that word on the front cover of a book, Dave? That's grosser than the F word!

    Joy

    davezeltserman wrote:
    > Sonny, let me put it this way, I don't think Whitey Bulger will be too happy if he ever got a copy of Pariah. And maybe some others wouldn't be too happy either...
    >
    > Yep, Outsourced is being published this Auguest in the UK. I thought it would be out this year in the US, but last I heard they now have a 2/11 US publishing date. It's one of my funner, twistier books, and with some luck the film version will go into production soon.
    >
    > --Dave
    >
    >
    > --- In rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com, sonny martin <sforstater@...> wrote:
    >
    >> oh, i read pariah and dug it. i know it's more than crime, with the great parts about the book/publishing world, but i had to think red was based on whitey.
    >>
    >> can't wait for killer and now i see one called 'outsourced'! keep 'em comin.
    >>
    >> --- On Mon, 2/8/10, davezeltserman <Dave.Zeltserman@...> wrote:
    >>
    >> From: davezeltserman <Dave.Zeltserman@...>
    >> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: In New York again
    >> To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
    >> Date: Monday, February 8, 2010, 10:39 AM
    >>
    >> Sonny, a lot of South Boston history and mythology worked its way into Pariah, and I had a writer who was very close to the scene look it over for me early on and tell me it felt very genuine to him, especially my portrayal of Nevin. So while I think the book gives a strong sense of what went on there and the people involved, the story is unique and not a retelling of the Whitey Bulger story--and really as much a satirical look at publishing and the nature of celebrity as it is a crime story.
    >>
    >> Here's a review that just came up for Killer from some guys who are usually tough graders, and this revierw is pretty much in line with all the reviews it has received so far:
    >>
    >> http://thebookbag.co.uk/reviews/index.php?title=Killer_by_Dave_Zeltserman
    >>
    >> --Dave
    >>
    >>
    >> --- In rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com, sonny <sforstater@> wrote:
    >>
    >>> well, certainly dave's 'pariah' uses the general figure of bulger for 'red'. not sure if kyle is based on kevin weeks or any other real person or combo of people, tho. obviously dave can say.
    >>>
    >>> --- On Sun, 2/7/10, Patrick King <abrasax93@> wrote:
    >>>
    >>> From: Patrick King <abrasax93@>
    >>> Subject: RE: RARA-AVIS: In New York again
    >>> To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
    >>> Date: Sunday, February 7, 2010, 2:34 PM
    >>>
    >>> The thing I love about the blog is how he says The Departed offers a more accurate version of the Bulger story. The Departed is a pretty straight adaptation of a Hong Kong movie, Infernal Affairs (with part of Infernal Affairs 2), not a "based on a true story" version of a Boston gangster.
    >>>
    >>> ***********************************
    >>>
    >>> THE DEPARTED has nothing whatsoever to do with the history of James "Whitey" Bulger. As far as I know, that story has never been exploited by fiction. If anyone else knows of an example of fiction employing that history, I'm very interested.
    >>>
    >>> The most intimate explanation of what apparently happened is told in Kevin Weeks' book BRUTAL. Weeks, though a party to murder, does not appear to white wash his involvement. I think, for the most part, he's telling what he believes to be the truth. THE BULGER BROTHERS is a waste of time diatribe by someone more interested in insulting people than finding out what happened. BLACK MASS is pieced together from multiple sources, drawing conclusions that may or may not be accurate.
    >>>
    >>> It's a fascinating set of circumstances in which the FBI hired a trio of mass murderers to inform on Rhode Island's Italian Mafia. In order to maintain their informants, FBI agents undermined local law enforcement in its attempts to prevent and solve crimes committed by the Bulger group, including multiple murders. There is every indication that FBI SAC, John Connelly, was at least an accomplice before and after the fact of three murders. In an honest country, the FBI would have been completely closed down after this fiasco and a new agency started from the ground up. In the US, of course, where if you fail in business the government turns over to you tax dollars to waste, the FBI probably uses these same tactic today.
    >>>
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