Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Burke

From: Patrick King (
Date: 11 Nov 2009

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    Lahane's first book, A DRINK BEFORE THE WAR, was god awful; absurd premise, ridiculously violent, comic book deep characters, Bubba for example, and yet it won at least one award. Had I read A DRINK BEFORE THE WAR first, I doubt that, as a reader, I'd bother with Lehane. His subsequent books have been very good. I read David Peace's 1984 and found it so inane I doubt I'll give him a second chance. But previous posts indicate others think he's on a par with Ellroy. To my mind Ellroy is in a class by himself among fiction writers much less crime writers. To say David Peace is a mediocre talent is to pay him a great compliment on my reading of 1984. Obviously, others are less demanding.

    Patrick King

    --- On Wed, 11/11/09, davezeltserman <> wrote:

    From: davezeltserman <> Subject: RARA-AVIS: Re: Burke To: Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 12:56 PM




    and talking about Declan Burke:

    http://crimealwaysp ays.blogspot. com/2009/ 11/woe-is- me-etc-failing- writer-writes. html

    The publishing world has probably never been more brutal for new writers. I know writers who've gotten one-book deals from NY, then no promotion, no support, hence predictably lousy sales numbers, and they're dropped, and now because of their bad numbers they're up against it in finding a new publisher. I have to think if some of the heavyweights of today--Connelly, Lehane, Pelecanos--were starting off in this current climate instead of 10+ years ago, they would've been spat out also by the industry after one or two books.

    I wish Declan the best for his future, and I understand fully where he's coming from.



    --- In rara-avis-l@ yahoogroups. com, "Juri Nummelin" <juri.nummelin@ ...> wrote:


    > Oops, I didn't notice Declan Burke's HIGH BALL BOOGIE in the list I sent to

    > the group.


    > It would be interesting to see what books would make the list now, with Dave

    > Z.'s run of excellent books (just started PARIAH last night and loving it),

    > with Megan Abbott stepping on the scene, with Sean Chercover's two novels,

    > and so on. (It seems that we are actually getting too many good-to-excellent

    > noir novels, since it's no more easy to make the same buzz that surrounded,

    > say, THE WHEELMAN or the advent of Hard Case Crime.)


    > Juri







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