RE: RARA-AVIS: Lionel White

From: Mark Sullivan (DJ-Anonyme@webtv.net)
Date: 04 Sep 2009

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    I enjoyed White's Hostage of a Hood. Mark

    > To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
    > From: clinton65@comcast.net
    > Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 12:53:10 -0700
    > Subject: RE: RARA-AVIS: Lionel White
    >
    > Being the HCC fan I am, I appreciate and trust your editorial insight,
    > Charles, but on this one I must say I'm rather puzzled at your take on
    > Lionel White. Yes, his later material, like NIGHT OF THE RAPE and THE
    > MEXICO RUN, are likely (and rightly) candidates for your disdain. But his
    > the novels he released in his prime -- STEAL BIG, THE BIG CAPER, TOO YOUNG
    > TO DIE, OBSESSION, LOVE TRAP and a half-dozen others that come immediately
    > to mind would not seem, from my recollection of those titles, to fit your
    > description. Yes, White often used violence against women as an element of
    > his work, but that was typical among many of the older pbo writers; it
    > certainly doesn't make him unique or "creepy." I won't try to sway your
    > opinion on him, but I would urge you to give him another try one of these
    > days (perhaps one of the titles I list above)...you may be surprised.
    >
    > Ron C.
    >
    >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com] On
    > > Behalf Of hardcasecrime
    > > Sent: Friday, September 04, 2009 4:13 AM
    > > To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
    > > Subject: RARA-AVIS: Lionel White
    > >
    > >
    > > > By the way, does anybody have any suggestions
    > > > on Lionel White books? I read Clean Break
    > > > (otherwise known as The Killing) and dug that.
    > >
    > > Sadly, nothing else White wrote ever came close to the high standard he
    > > set in CLEAN BREAK. Not even remotely. A few of his caper novels have
    > > decent plots, but they also suffer from the author's slightly creepy
    > > attachment to writing rape (or near-rape) scenes that are clearly meant
    > > to be arousing for the reader, or at least seem to have been so for the
    > > writer, and his tendency to paint black and Mexican characters with the
    > > crudest of brushstrokes. (Best of all, of course, are the cases where
    > > he combines these two.) I'm the last person on earth to be, or ask
    > > others to be, PC, but I find myself wincing in embarrassment when I read
    > > much of White's stuff. It's one of the reasons there hasn't been a
    > > White novel in our line.
    > >
    > > But THE KILLING is outstanding. No question about that.
    > >
    > > --Charles
    > >
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