RARA-AVIS: Re: western vs noir, cowboy vs private eye

From: Gonzalo Baeza (gbaeza@gmail.com)
Date: 14 Jul 2009

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    I agree. I'm not big on poetry and I've even found some of his verse to be enjoyable.

    -Gonzalo.

    --- In rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com, "J.C. Hocking" <jchocking@...> wrote:
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    > Many thanks, Gonzalo, but I have that one.  Read the IPL reprint you mention when it came out. 
    > It's good stuff, if not in the same league as Glass Key.  I wish Brand's non-western work (which pretty much spans the pulp spectrum from spy stories to lost race fantasy) was as easy to find as his westerns.
    > John
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    > --- On Mon, 7/13/09, Gonzalo Baeza <gbaeza@...> wrote:
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    > From: Gonzalo Baeza <gbaeza@...>
    > Subject: RARA-AVIS: Re: western vs noir, cowboy vs private eye
    > To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Monday, July 13, 2009, 8:57 PM
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    > Try Brand's The Night Flower. There's a reprint from the late '80s with an introduction by William F. Nolan. I think he even compares it to Hammett's The Glass Key.
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    > -Gonzalo.
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    > --- In rara-avis-l@ yahoogroups. com, "J.C. Hocking" <jchocking@ ..> wrote:
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    > > I have a real trove of Max Brand.  His stuff is often great-- rich, mythic and surprisingly  emotional.
    > > But I haven't read much of it I would classify as hardboiled either in tone or style.  
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    > > --- On Sun, 7/12/09, jacquesdebierue <jacquesdebierue@ ...> wrote:
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    > > From: jacquesdebierue <jacquesdebierue@ ...>
    > > Subject: RARA-AVIS: Re: western vs noir, cowboy vs private eye
    > > To: rara-avis-l@ yahoogroups. com
    > > Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 11:09 PM
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    > > --- In rara-avis-l@ yahoogroups. com, "Channing" <filmtroll@ ..> wrote:
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    > > > Interesting topic as I'm working my way through Cowboy novels right now.
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    > > > I'd recommend "The Ox-Bow Incident" by Walter Van Tillburg Clark as a great Cowboy noir. Published in 1940 as an intentional deconstruction of the Western (as in Cowboy) novel.
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    > > > Sinister and surreal, dark and hopeless, but also quintessentially of the Old West. It's about cattle rustling and frontier justice which would be difficult to transpose to a modern setting.
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    > > And don't forget grandaddy Max Brand... still readable, lots of copies around.
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    > > Best,
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    > > mrt
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