Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: western vs noir, cowboy vs private eye

From: James Michael Rogers (jeddak5@cox.net)
Date: 13 Jul 2009

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    I love Max Brand but, of the pulp western guys, the lean, tough prose is all Luke Short and, sometimes, Ernest Haycox. Great westerns.

    James

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: J.C. Hocking
      To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:43
      Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: western vs noir, cowboy vs private eye

      I have a real trove of Max Brand. His stuff is often great-- rich, mythic and surprisingly emotional.
      But I haven't read much of it I would classify as hardboiled either in tone or style.

      --- On Sun, 7/12/09, jacquesdebierue <jacquesdebierue@yahoo.com> wrote:

      From: jacquesdebierue <jacquesdebierue@yahoo.com>
      Subject: RARA-AVIS: Re: western vs noir, cowboy vs private eye
      To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Sunday, July 12, 2009, 11:09 PM

      --- In rara-avis-l@ yahoogroups. com, "Channing" <filmtroll@. ..> wrote:
    >
    > Interesting topic as I'm working my way through Cowboy novels right now.
    >
    > I'd recommend "The Ox-Bow Incident" by Walter Van Tillburg Clark as a great Cowboy noir. Published in 1940 as an intentional deconstruction of the Western (as in Cowboy) novel.
    >
    > Sinister and surreal, dark and hopeless, but also quintessentially of the Old West. It's about cattle rustling and frontier justice which would be difficult to transpose to a modern setting.
    >

      And don't forget grandaddy Max Brand... still readable, lots of copies around.

      Best,

      mrt

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