thanks. i've read the classic holmes stuff, or so i thought. i live in pennsylvania. i'll be checkin it out.
--- On Thu, 7/9/09, Stephen Burridge <stephen.burridge@gmail.com> wrote:
> From: Stephen Burridge <stephen.burridge@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: western vs noir, cowboy vs private eye
> To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 2:02 PM
> "The Valley of Fear" is about the
> only Sherlock Holmes I've read since
> childhood. I visited that part of Pennsylvania a few
> years ago and got
> interested in the history. I read an excellent book
> called "Making Sense of
> the Molly Maguires" by Kevin Kenny on the subject of the
> history, then
> re-read "The Valley of Fear", because all the secret
> society stuff I half
> remembered had suddenly been illuminated. It's a
> short book; I found it
> perfectly readable and quite interesting. I don't
> know how it's regarded by
> Holmes fans.
> Stephen
> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM, sonny <sforstater@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > i never even heard of 'the valley of fear'. is it any
> good?
> >
> > --- On Thu, 7/9/09, Stephen Burridge <stephen.burridge@gmail.com<stephen.burridge%40gmail.com>>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > From: Stephen Burridge <stephen.burridge@gmail.com<stephen.burridge%40gmail.com>
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: western vs noir,
> cowboy vs private eye
> > > To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com
> <rara-avis-l%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Date: Thursday, July 9, 2009, 11:59 AM
> >
> > > As I recall there's no significant
> > > western content in "The Valley of Fear."
> > > It is based on the Molly Maguires, but not
> transplanted
> > > west.
> > >
> > > Stephen
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Joy Matkowski
> <jmatkowski1@comcast.net<jmatkowski1%40comcast.net>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That's a lot of fictionalizing. The Molly
> Maguires
> > > weren't a union, let
> > > > alone a corrupt union, and, more important,
> they were
> > > in Pennsylvania.
> > > > Was the whole kit and caboodle reset
> somewhere in the
> > > Wild West?
> > > >
> > > > Joy
> > > > now reading Connelly: Echo Park
> > > >
> > > > Patrick King wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > A case could be made that A STUDY IN
> SCARLET is
> > > the very first
> > > > western/mystery cross-genre piece.
> > > > >
> > > > > *******************************
> > > > >
> > > > > THE VALLEY OF FEAR also had its motive
> set in the
> > > American west. The
> > > > villains in that was a gangster-run union
> rather than
> > > Mormons. Both stories
> > > > are based on fact. THE STUDY IN SCARLET take
> for its
> > > premise the Mountain
> > > > Meadow massacre of 1857 in which a group of
> high-level
> > > Mormons instigated an
> > > > attack on an emigrant wagon train,
> attempting to make
> > > it look like a Paiute
> > > > native attack. THE VALLY OF FEAR
> fictionalizes the
> > > exploits of Pinkerton
> > > > mole, James McParland who famously
> infiltrated the
> > > mine workers union, The
> > > > Molly Maguires.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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