Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Slapstick-Silly Noir

From: jean-pierre jacquet (
Date: 20 Jun 2009

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    Just a trivial note on slapstick-silly noir: today is the 50th anniversary of a silly-noir writer's death, Boris Vian, who died a silly death (laughing or crying?) during a private screening of the film adaptation of his "I'll Spit on Your Grave" novel. jpj

    On Jun 20, 2009, at 12:09 AM, jacquesdebierue wrote:

    > --- In, Kevin Burton Smith
    > <kvnsmith@...> wrote:
    > > Phrases
    > > like "extreme noir" or "psycho noir" or "cutting edge" noir are more
    > > likely to be splashed across the cover than words like "slapstick"
    > or
    > > "cartoonish" or "a wild romp." Even though the latter may be just as
    > > (or even more) truthful.
    > >
    > But Kevin, what's new? Publishers advertisements tend to be full of
    > bullshit, regardless of genre. You have to judge the book, not the
    > blurbs.
    > You mention verisimilitude... but Philip Marlowe was not really
    > credible as a real life character - he is credible as a literary
    > character. The guy from Charlie Huston's Caught Stealing is over the
    > top, but as a character in the novel he works perfectly, there is a
    > coherence. In other words, Huston wasn't writing a parody but
    > creating a somewhat surrealistic but coherent picture. That's what
    > literature aims for. I seriously doubt that Westlake's Parker could
    > get away so many times without a bullet in his head, but he did --
    > in the books.
    > Best,
    > mrt

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