oh, good. thanks for clearin it up for me.
off topic even more, with the mlk, jr. holiday and then obama inauguration, man did i see/hear racist humor (some funny to me, some not).
to bring it around to topic slightly, when is a racist (or sexist or violent etc) character/narrator 'allowed'? always? only if it works (it's funny and meant to be; it's disgusting and meant to be, etc)?
is everything allowed in the cause of art, entertainment? is it simply good or bad, something that works overall or not?
do the real feelings of the author matter? if a 'liberal' or p.c. person uses characters and behavior that are repellent, is that different than if a virulent racist, homophobic, author does the same, everything else being equal?
--- On Wed, 1/21/09, Steve Novak <Cinefrog@comcast.net> wrote:
> From: Steve Novak <Cinefrog@comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: ...things said...
> To: "RARA-AVIS" <email@example.com>
> Date: Wednesday, January 21, 2009, 1:02 AM
> I took your answer as humor and was trying to add some a bit
> myself, making
> fun of my compatriots who are sometimes very/quite
> unwitty...to say the
> On 1/20/09 10:52 PM, "sonny"
> <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> > i was attempting humor, and tho i am not p.c., i
> didnt see it as racist, but
> > i guess some might. also, i dont know french at all. i
> voted for barry o. some
> > of my best friends are etc.
> > i was surprised to see recently, in something written,
> that in addition to
> > 'film noir', a phrase was use for the
> opposite, something like film blanc or
> > some other word meaning white i believe. i'd never
> seen that before. not sure
> > what it means, other than possibly 'not noir'
> > but then you have to define noir first...
> > --- On Tue, 1/20/09, Steve Novak
> > <mailto:Cinefrog%40comcast.net> > wrote:
> >> > From: Steve Novak <Cinefrog@comcast.net
> <mailto:Cinefrog%40comcast.net> >
> >> > Subject: RARA-AVIS: ...things said...
> >> > To: "RARA-AVIS"
> >> <mailto:rara-avis-l%40yahoogroups.com> >
> >> > Date: Tuesday, January 20, 2009, 10:33 PM
> >> > The French (well...some of them...), say
> he¹s not black
> >> > but Œmétis¹ ...
> >> > whatever difference that makes...?
> >> >
> >> > I guess you live inside your own
> boundaries...and as a
> >> > Frenchman myself
> >> > (well, with two passports anyway), I
> witnessed many of
> >> > those kind of
> >> > statements during and after the Algerian
> >> > probably, as a youngster
> >> > in MS and HS then, used some of them...as a
> well groomed
> >> > product of my
> >> > environment...
> >> >
> >> > Montois
> >> >
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