Re: RARA-AVIS: Westlake on Noir and Hard-Boiled

From: John Armstrong (
Date: 06 Jan 2009

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    On and off for about five-six years


    [Todd Mason interpolates while pulling this out of a trap: Because it's an endless discussion here.] wrote:
    > In a message dated 1/6/09 12:24:05 PM,
    > <> writes:
    > > *PK:* Your Parker novels were once called “hard-boiled”, but are now
    > > sometimes called “noir”. Do these two terms mean the same, in your view?
    > > Are they terms you’d use?
    > >
    > > *DW:* I think hard-boiled and noir are both a little past their sell-by
    > > date, and both really refer to the post-war 40s. Hard-boiled is what the
    > > vets brought back with them, and noir is the world they found when they
    > > got home. I think hard-boiled is still possible, but noir today is
    > > another word for artsy.
    > >
    > you new here?
    > John Lau


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