Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Another cop turned writer

From: jean-pierre jacquet (jacquet@optonline.net)
Date: 31 Oct 2008

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    No I haven't seen the remake, but it was highly praised by the critics. And Daniel Auteuil sports a "noire" mustache reminiscing of Lino Ventura's in the original. And according to popular culture pundits out there, 'staches are due for a comeback based on Michael Imperioli's appearance in the new "Life On Mars" TV series. Which could be the start of a new thread on this list: "facial hair and noir". jpj On Oct 30, 2008, at 5:45 PM, Steve Novak wrote:

    > Funny ou mention this JP...we just watched Le Deuxième Souffle that
    > we got
    > from Netflix, from the Giovanni novel and script...
    > Absolutely essential. Book and Melville film...I haven’t seen the
    > Corneau
    > remaque...have you?
    >
    > Montois
    >
    > On 10/30/08 5:27 PM, "jean-pierre jacquet" <jacquet@optonline.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > > I'd like to mention José Giovanni, french ex-con turned successful
    > > writer (4 books in the Série Noire, countless scripts) and
    > filmmaker.
    > > His parents were professional gamblers who ran a gambling hall in
    > > Paris but lost a fortune during the Depression; José joined the
    > > Résistance in 1944 and then got involved with a gang specialized in
    > > blackmailing wartime French collaborators; was picked up after a
    > > shootout and spent 11 years on death row; was pardoned in the late
    > > 50's and turned his prison memoirs into a succesful first novel LE
    > > TROU. He was involved in a bunch of noirish films featuring Delon,
    > > Ventura, Gabin, Belmondo.
    > > On Oct 30, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Steve Novak wrote:
    > >
    > >> > Thanks Jim for this; your precious info has been saved and all
    > the
    > >> > additions
    > >> > since give a very ull picture.
    > >> > Thanks again,
    > >> >
    > >> > Montois
    > >> >
    > >> > On 10/29/08 5:48 PM, "JIM DOHERTY" <jimdohertyjr@yahoo.com
    > >> <mailto:jimdohertyjr%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
    > >> >
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > Re Jonathan's comment below:
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > "Does anyone know of criminal writers and I can only think
    > of one
    > >> > cop writer
    > >>> > > in Joseph Wambaugh."
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > I'm crushed. Crushed!
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > All those responses to Jonathan's post, and no one thought to
    > >> > mention your
    > >>> > > obediant servant? A police officer most of his adult life, a
    > Spur
    > >> > winner, a
    > >>> > > Dagger nominee, and a Rare Bird lo these many years, and not a
    > >> > single mention?
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > Leaving myself aside, a few more cops turned crime writer.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > Leslie T. White, L.A. County D.A.'s Investigator and author
    > of the
    > >>> > > autobiography ME, DETECTIVE and the cop novels HARNESS BULL
    > and
    > >> > HOMICIDE.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > Jess Kimbrough, retired LAPD detective lieutenant, and one
    > of the
    > >> > highest
    > >>> > > ranking black officers in that department when he retired in
    > 1939,
    > >> > who wrote
    > >>> > > DEFENDER OF THE ANGELS, a novel based on his experiences
    > policing
    > >> > L.A. in the
    > >>> > > '20's and '30's.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > Dallas Barnes, who worked Narcotics and Homicide in LAPD's
    > >> > Southwest Division
    > >>> > > prior to writing novels like SEE THE WOMAN, BADGE OF HONOR,
    > and
    > >> > YESTERDAY IS
    > >>> > > DEAD, as well as scripts for TV shows like HUNTER, JOE
    > FORRESTER,
    > >> > etc.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > John Ball, who found the police work he researched for his
    > Virgil
    > >> > Tibbs novels
    > >>> > > so fascinating that he became a reserve deputy in the L.A.
    > County
    > >> > Sheriff's
    > >>> > > Office, eventually turning those experiences into fiction in
    > THE
    > >> > VAN and THE
    > >>> > > MURDER CHILDREN.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > Gene Roddenberry, who was a sergeant in LAPD, working as Chief
    > >> > Parker's
    > >>> > > perosnal secretary, and the department's liason to Jack
    > Webb. He
    > >> > broke into
    > >>> > > TV writing by turning case files into story treatments for
    > DRAGNET
    > >> > that were
    > >>> > > then fleshed out into full scripts by Webb's stable of
    > writers.
    > >> > Later, using
    > >>> > > a pseudonym, he wrote full scripts for shows like HIGHWAY
    > PATROL.
    > >> > He'S better
    > >>> > > known for STAR TREK than for his cop show scripts, OF
    > COURSE, but
    > >> > cop shows
    > >>> > > are how he broke into the industry.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > Former US Secret Service Agent Gerald Petievich wrote four
    > novels
    > >> > about Secret
    > >>> > > Service agents in Los Angeles based on his own experiences,
    > and
    > >> > one novel
    > >>> > > based on the experiences of his brother, John, as a
    > detective in
    > >> > LAPD's
    > >>> > > C.R.A.S.H. unit.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > And that's just in the Los Angeles area.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > Still sticking to California, there's Inyo County Deputy
    > Sheriff
    > >> > Kirk
    > >>> > > Mitchell, San Diego PD Detective Sergeant Jack Mullen, San
    > >> > Francisco Police
    > >>> > > Officer Jerry Kenneally, San Jose Police Chief Joseph
    > McNamara.
    > >> > Oakland Police
    > >>> > > Officer Kent Anderson (though, strictly speaking, his NIGHT
    > DOGS
    > >> > seems to be
    > >>> > > based on his time in the Portland, OR, Police, prior to his
    > >> > lateral transfer
    > >>> > > to OPD), and San Jose Police Investigator David Scannell.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > In Louisiana there's O'Neill de Noux and B.J. Bourg. In Texas,
    > >> > there's Anne
    > >>> > > Wingate and Richard Abshire. In Florida there's Cherokee Paul
    > >> > MacDonald. In
    > >>> > > Vermont there's Archer Mayor. In Tennessee there's David
    > Hunter.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > And how about FBI Agents like Gordon Gordon, Paul Lindsey,
    > Arthur
    > >> > Nehrbass,
    > >>> > > Christopher Whitcomb, and Gus Riehl?
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > The rest of the world? There's Britain's John Wainwright,
    > Basil
    > >> > Thomson, Joan
    > >>> > > Lock, Graham Ison, and Peter Walker. The Netherlands' A.C.
    > Bantjer
    > >> > and
    > >>> > > Janwillem van de Wetering. The Soviet Union's Fridrikh
    > Neznansky.
    > >> > Finland's
    > >>> > > Matti Joensuu. India's Yogesh Pratap.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > As for ex-cons, has anyone on this thread mentioned former
    > FBI Top
    > >> > Tenner
    > >>> > > Albert Nussbaum or white-collar criminal and Edgar-winner Paul
    > >> > Erdman? How
    > >>> > > about Malcom Braly, who was the subject of a very recent
    > thread?
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > Finally, regarding the writer who started this thread, who was
    > >> > neither a cop
    > >>> > > nor a criminal, David Goodis, if you don't think he was
    > capable of
    > >> > writing
    > >>> > > with verisimilitude, with what a famous mystery editor once
    > called
    > >> > "technical
    > >>> > > verity," check out his pioneering, and quite well-
    > researched, police
    > >>> > > procedural novel OF MISSING PERSONS. Untypical, I grat you,
    > but
    > >> > damned good.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > Longest-winded I've been in a while. Hope you didn't mind.
    > >>> > >
    > >>> > > JIM DOHERTY
    > >> >
    > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    > >> >
    > >> >
    > >
    > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
    > Steve Novak
    > Cinefrog@comcast.net
    >
    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    >
    >

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