Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Another cop turned writer

From: Steve Novak (Cinefrog@comcast.net)
Date: 30 Oct 2008

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    Funny ou mention this JP...we just watched Le Deuxième Souffle that we got from Netflix, from the Giovanni novel and script... Absolutely essential. Book and Melville film...I haven¹t seen the Corneau remaque...have you?

    Montois

    On 10/30/08 5:27 PM, "jean-pierre jacquet" <jacquet@optonline.net> wrote:

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    >
    >
    > I'd like to mention José Giovanni, french ex-con turned successful
    > writer (4 books in the Série Noire, countless scripts) and filmmaker.
    > His parents were professional gamblers who ran a gambling hall in
    > Paris but lost a fortune during the Depression; José joined the
    > Résistance in 1944 and then got involved with a gang specialized in
    > blackmailing wartime French collaborators; was picked up after a
    > shootout and spent 11 years on death row; was pardoned in the late
    > 50's and turned his prison memoirs into a succesful first novel LE
    > TROU. He was involved in a bunch of noirish films featuring Delon,
    > Ventura, Gabin, Belmondo.
    > On Oct 30, 2008, at 5:04 PM, Steve Novak wrote:
    >
    >> > Thanks Jim for this; your precious info has been saved and all the
    >> > additions
    >> > since give a very ull picture.
    >> > Thanks again,
    >> >
    >> > Montois
    >> >
    >> > On 10/29/08 5:48 PM, "JIM DOHERTY" <jimdohertyjr@yahoo.com
    >> <mailto:jimdohertyjr%40yahoo.com> > wrote:
    >> >
    >>> > >
    >>> > >
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Re Jonathan's comment below:
    >>> > >
    >>> > > "Does anyone know of criminal writers and I can only think of one
    >> > cop writer
    >>> > > in Joseph Wambaugh."
    >>> > >
    >>> > > I'm crushed. Crushed!
    >>> > >
    >>> > > All those responses to Jonathan's post, and no one thought to
    >> > mention your
    >>> > > obediant servant? A police officer most of his adult life, a Spur
    >> > winner, a
    >>> > > Dagger nominee, and a Rare Bird lo these many years, and not a
    >> > single mention?
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Leaving myself aside, a few more cops turned crime writer.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Leslie T. White, L.A. County D.A.'s Investigator and author of the
    >>> > > autobiography ME, DETECTIVE and the cop novels HARNESS BULL and
    >> > HOMICIDE.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Jess Kimbrough, retired LAPD detective lieutenant, and one of the
    >> > highest
    >>> > > ranking black officers in that department when he retired in 1939,
    >> > who wrote
    >>> > > DEFENDER OF THE ANGELS, a novel based on his experiences policing
    >> > L.A. in the
    >>> > > '20's and '30's.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Dallas Barnes, who worked Narcotics and Homicide in LAPD's
    >> > Southwest Division
    >>> > > prior to writing novels like SEE THE WOMAN, BADGE OF HONOR, and
    >> > YESTERDAY IS
    >>> > > DEAD, as well as scripts for TV shows like HUNTER, JOE FORRESTER,
    >> > etc.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > John Ball, who found the police work he researched for his Virgil
    >> > Tibbs novels
    >>> > > so fascinating that he became a reserve deputy in the L.A. County
    >> > Sheriff's
    >>> > > Office, eventually turning those experiences into fiction in THE
    >> > VAN and THE
    >>> > > MURDER CHILDREN.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Gene Roddenberry, who was a sergeant in LAPD, working as Chief
    >> > Parker's
    >>> > > perosnal secretary, and the department's liason to Jack Webb. He
    >> > broke into
    >>> > > TV writing by turning case files into story treatments for DRAGNET
    >> > that were
    >>> > > then fleshed out into full scripts by Webb's stable of writers.
    >> > Later, using
    >>> > > a pseudonym, he wrote full scripts for shows like HIGHWAY PATROL.
    >> > He'S better
    >>> > > known for STAR TREK than for his cop show scripts, OF COURSE, but
    >> > cop shows
    >>> > > are how he broke into the industry.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Former US Secret Service Agent Gerald Petievich wrote four novels
    >> > about Secret
    >>> > > Service agents in Los Angeles based on his own experiences, and
    >> > one novel
    >>> > > based on the experiences of his brother, John, as a detective in
    >> > LAPD's
    >>> > > C.R.A.S.H. unit.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > And that's just in the Los Angeles area.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Still sticking to California, there's Inyo County Deputy Sheriff
    >> > Kirk
    >>> > > Mitchell, San Diego PD Detective Sergeant Jack Mullen, San
    >> > Francisco Police
    >>> > > Officer Jerry Kenneally, San Jose Police Chief Joseph McNamara.
    >> > Oakland Police
    >>> > > Officer Kent Anderson (though, strictly speaking, his NIGHT DOGS
    >> > seems to be
    >>> > > based on his time in the Portland, OR, Police, prior to his
    >> > lateral transfer
    >>> > > to OPD), and San Jose Police Investigator David Scannell.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > In Louisiana there's O'Neill de Noux and B.J. Bourg. In Texas,
    >> > there's Anne
    >>> > > Wingate and Richard Abshire. In Florida there's Cherokee Paul
    >> > MacDonald. In
    >>> > > Vermont there's Archer Mayor. In Tennessee there's David Hunter.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > And how about FBI Agents like Gordon Gordon, Paul Lindsey, Arthur
    >> > Nehrbass,
    >>> > > Christopher Whitcomb, and Gus Riehl?
    >>> > >
    >>> > > The rest of the world? There's Britain's John Wainwright, Basil
    >> > Thomson, Joan
    >>> > > Lock, Graham Ison, and Peter Walker. The Netherlands' A.C. Bantjer
    >> > and
    >>> > > Janwillem van de Wetering. The Soviet Union's Fridrikh Neznansky.
    >> > Finland's
    >>> > > Matti Joensuu. India's Yogesh Pratap.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > As for ex-cons, has anyone on this thread mentioned former FBI Top
    >> > Tenner
    >>> > > Albert Nussbaum or white-collar criminal and Edgar-winner Paul
    >> > Erdman? How
    >>> > > about Malcom Braly, who was the subject of a very recent thread?
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Finally, regarding the writer who started this thread, who was
    >> > neither a cop
    >>> > > nor a criminal, David Goodis, if you don't think he was capable of
    >> > writing
    >>> > > with verisimilitude, with what a famous mystery editor once called
    >> > "technical
    >>> > > verity," check out his pioneering, and quite well-researched, police
    >>> > > procedural novel OF MISSING PERSONS. Untypical, I grat you, but
    >> > damned good.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > Longest-winded I've been in a while. Hope you didn't mind.
    >>> > >
    >>> > > JIM DOHERTY
    >> >
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    >> >
    >> >
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    Steve Novak Cinefrog@comcast.net

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