Re: RARA-AVIS: Re:Apply Now: Banff International Literary Translation Centre

From: Brian Thornton (bthorntonwriter@gmail.com)
Date: 24 Oct 2008

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    I could not disagree more on the part about watching Shakespeare with subtitles.

    While it's true that Elizabethan English is different in many ways from Standard American or modern British English, it is still very much *modern* English, with few variations on anything other than standard sentence structure.

    It's like anything else, experience with it breeds comfort, and if ever there was an author in any language worth spending a little time with, it's Willie the Shake. And keeping this mildly on-topic, I defy you to find an author whose work is more intrinsically hard-boiled and in many cases (the laughably bad TITUS ANDRONICUS, the devastating KING LEAR, that vehicle for the ultimate femme fatale MACBETH, and his masterpiece, HAMLET come to mind) outright noirish.

    If it were Middle English (Chaucer) or Old English (BEOWULF) I could see the appropriateness of subtitles, but with Shakespeare? Nah. You lose something in subtitles.

    All the Best-

    Brian

    On Fri, Oct 24, 2008 at 11:29 AM, Mark R. Harris <brokerharris@gmail.com>wrote:

    > I recently compared watching the first half-hour of the 1962 British
    > film
    > The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner first without, then with
    > English-language subtitles. I got so much more out of the film with the
    > subtitles, it was amazing. Whenever there are any linguistic issues with an
    > English-language film -- thick accents, slang, difficult language
    > (Shakespeare) -- I recommend using the English subtitles if they are
    > available on the DVD, which they increasingly are.
    >
    > Mark
    >
    > On 10/24/08, Kevin Burton Smith <kvnsmith@sbcglobal.net<kvnsmith%40sbcglobal.net>>
    > wrote:
    > >
    > > I speak both American and Canadian, and am working on English.
    > >
    > > Does that count?
    > >
    > > (Hey guys! Down here BBC programs often have sub-titles!)
    > >
    > > Kevin
    > >
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    > >
    > >
    > >
    >
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