Sorry friends but Batman noir???!!!....a superhero
noir??????!!!!!!!!...arenąt the two words almost opposites...
I guess that is part of another post-and super-post-modern version of
Seriously: I just donąt get this at all!..
On 7/23/08 10:42 AM, "William" <email@example.com> wrote:
> I was a little dazzled that the "disappearing pencil" trick got past
> censors in a film that was guaranteed to attract kids (I saw
> 5-year-olds at my showing).
> I think Batman has always been superhero noir. The character's roots
> are a mish-mash of gothic novel tropes with a Dick Tracy rogue's
> gallery. Then the works that redefined him in the 80s-90s (Dark Knight
> Returns, Year One, Killing Joke, Arkham Asylum, The Animated Series)
> were all heavily influenced by classic crime fiction and existentialism.
> That's a pretty good noir pedigree if you ask me and Nolan has been
> very smart at pulling all this together.
> The exploration of the Joker's motives was definitely the most
> compelling part of the film and Nolan made his world view dominant by
> giving him that final up-is-down, right-is-wrong levitating soliloquy.
> It's good that Ledger was such a force in the film because without him
> the movie is basically a Sharper Image(™) Death Wish 3.
> Hopefully (though I doubt it) Alan Moore got a paycheck because the
> best Joker moments were all from Killing Joke.
> --- In firstname.lastname@example.org <mailto:rara-avis-l%40yahoogroups.com> ,
> "Nathan Cain" <IndieCrime@...> wrote:
>> > Has anyone else seen The Dark Knight? Would anyone else say it's a
>> > superhero noir? This was a rather surprising movie, especially for a
>> > summer blockbuster because of the villain's utter lack of motive
>> > beyond a desire to cause chaos and because (Spoiler Ahead):
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