Here we go again...
These things have been talked about many times on Rara on Rompol (Fr) on
Europolar...wherever...who cares...this subject has been debated before
about some damn film, or some damn book, or some damn graphic novel...or
whatever form of personal/political discourse (murder/mayhem/spanish
inquisition/kkk/...what have ya...whatever suits your fancy, your ethnic
affiliation, your religious masturbation, your anger)....or practice
(garrote/bomb/PPK/Berreta/bare hands/laptop-ipod cable, water down the throat, pretty poison, razor slash on achilleıs tendons, burning medieval oil...)....
...can anybody identify, isolate, demonstrate, certify,
legitimaze...whatever is in the ³gloryfying violence²
stigma/definition/presupposition/supposition...and whatever variations you
fancy...can anybody do that with a straight face and a reasonableı amount
of literary logicı in any of our discussion groups...for lack of any other
As I have said before here, I belong for many years, to discussion groups
about Nick Cave, the aussie singer I have seen maqny times across the
US...now, for any of you, is The Proposition (a noir aussie western if you
had to find one) ladden with glorifyingı violence...or then what would you
say about Bad Lieutenant (glorifying drug, smak and masturbation maybe???)
or The Wild Bunch (glorifying slo-mo blood spurting and pistol shooting)....
The reason we have these discussions, these discussion groups is because
there are many criminals occurences, many criminals, many people who chase
them too, many countries, many social classes ...etc...and some witnesses to
all this general mayhem feel either compelled or drawn to bring it out in
novels or film or graphic drawings...
Is Hammet gratiutous/glorifying...is Tardi...is Tarantino...is Fernando
Mereilles (City of God), is Ken Bruen or David Goodis, is Willeford or Sam
Pekinpah....is John Woo....
Itıs all in the Eye of The Behoder (cf Marc Behm), itıs all in the context,
in what the viewer/reader bring to the partyı....ıto the showı (boy, do I
hate this terminology for a film!!!)....to his/her/their own experience and
fate...and the way they choose to walk under that beam...
But to talk about glorifyingı (very close to gore-ifying, mindıya....and
that tells you about the frame set)...or about gratuitousı as examples of
³bad², of ³out-of-bounds²...etc...etc...is to enter territories where, in fact, our interests lie, where writers wallow, where readers/viewers sway....
Films may be bad, books may rub away in a few lines, but to
dismiss/reject/ignore/segregate...etc...because of glorifyingı or
gratuitousı or any form of violence for that matter, is quite ludicrous given the subject of these discussion groups...
Just a few slashing thoughts....
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