glorifying violence (was Re: RARA-AVIS: Elmore Leonard)

From: davezeltserman (
Date: 20 Jul 2008

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    IT would be even tougher to make the case about "Jackie Brown", an exceptional film, and one that's significantly better than the book it's based on, Rum Punch. IMHO, Pulp Fiction is one of the best crime movies, period.


    --- In, DJ-Anonyme@... wrote:
    > Jordan wrote:
    > "I've never even seen Pulp Fiction, I really can't stand Tarrantino's
    > movies and how they glorify violence."
    > Gotta ask. Given that Pulp Fiction was only his second film (after
    > Reservoir Dogs, hard to think of that one GLORIFYING violence given the
    > fate of its characters), what led you to prejudge it as glorifying
    > violence?
    > But there's an interesting question here: Considering violence is such
    > a mainstay of hardboiled and noir, what are its different aspects, and
    > how do we distinguish between them? Who is glorifying violence? Who is
    > using violence for other ends?
    > It seems safe to say Spillane glorifies Hammer's violence, though there
    > may be disagreement about whether or not that's a good thing. But what
    > about, say, Pelecanos's shootouts? Do they glorify violence? Or do
    > they expose the consequences of violence, especially glorified violence?
    > Mark

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