Re: RARA-AVIS: Writers who have "disappeared" from the public eye

From: Jeff Vorzimmer (
Date: 07 May 2008

Gary Lovisi at Gryphon Books is selling copies through for $16. He also has some Harry Whittington reprints for sale.


---- Lawrence Coates <> wrote:
> I'm kind of late getting back to this post. But I recall someone on Rara Avis having access
> to reprints of "Sin Pit." Am I remembering correctly? It's not available through any public
> or university inter-library loan source here in Ohio, and the only copy I saw online was
> seventy-five bucks.
> With a title like "Sin PIt," I'm intrigued.
> Lawrence
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> >Date: 4-May-2008 15:02:26 -0400
> >From: "Jeff Vorzimmer" <>
> >Reply-To: <>
> >To: <>
> >Subject: RARA-AVIS: Writers who have "disappeared" from the public eye
> >
> >> ***April 2008: Writers who have "disappeared" from the public eye, either
> >> because they stopped
> >> publishing or because their work is unavailable.
> >
> >Are we still doing this theme?
> >
> >I've been trying to get back to Lion Books that I'd overlooked in the past,
> >so I read The Peddler (in a HCC reprint), Sleep with the Devil, Sin Pit and
> >Brotherhood of Velvet over the last couple months. The last two titles
> >belong to writers who definitely fall into this category, Paul Meskil and
> >David Karp. In the case of Paul Meskil, it's likely due to the fact that he
> >only published the one novel. But I can't understand the neglect of Karp. He
> >has definitey disappeared.
> >
> >In Hardboiled America, O'Brien mentions Karp as "curiously overlooked" and
> >in George's Noir Fiction, he says that a strong argument can be made for
> >Karp as being the best writer in the Lion stable, even over Jim Thompson. I
> >wouldn't go quite that far. Thompson and Goodis were at the top of the heap
> >there and both of them went on to Fawcett, while Karp was able to break into
> >the hardcover market. Though I think that the former two, having been
> >refugees from that market to begin with, thought they could make a better
> >living with PBOs.
> >
> >I read Karp's Brotherhood of Velvet, which has mentioned as his best. It was
> >well-written with an interesting premise, the familiar theme of the secret
> >organization that has people in key government positions and thoroughly
> >controls lives of those who belong. But it starts to slowly fizzle out about
> >half way through. It's almost as if he didn't know how to end it properly.
> >What I see as the problems of the novel I suspect stem from the fact that
> >Karp obviously didn't see himself as a crime writer with the need for
> >suspenseful moments and actual crime. What actual crime exists in the novel
> >is hearsay with the exception of the actual beating he takes supposedly at
> >the hands of the Brotherhood.
> >
> >Hey, I might have answered my own question as to why he's been overlooked.
> >
> >Jeff
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Lawrence Coates
> Associate Professor of Creative Writing
> Bowling Green State University
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