Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Two buck books

From: Robert Elkin ( rictusaporia@yahoo.com)
Date: 20 Oct 2007


Yes, but only in the classical sense, not in the contemporary.

----- Original Message ---- From: Patrick King < abrasax93@yahoo.com> To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 2:08:48 PM Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Two buck books

  

    
            Well, we have one thing in common; we're both

athietsts.

Patrick

--- Robert Elkin <rictusaporia@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> Oh, please.

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> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Patrick King <abrasax93@yahoo. com>

> To: rara-avis-l@ yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:14:43 PM

> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Two buck books

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> the last 40 years have made it their main purpose to

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> go the parole hearings of all 5 of the people

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> PAROLE and you're lecturing me about "fairness." I'm

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> Patrick King

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> --- Robert Elkin <rictusaporia@ yahoo.com> wrote:

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> > Probably not, but that's a big DNF in terms of

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> > Rob

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> > From: Patrick King <abrasax93@yahoo. com>

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> > To: rara-avis-l@ yahoogroups. com

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> > Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:58:24 AM

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> > --- rictusaporia <rictusaporia@ yahoo.com> wrote:

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> > > --- In rara-avis-l@ yahoogroups. com, Patrick

> King

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