Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Two buck books

From: Robert Elkin ( rictusaporia@yahoo.com)
Date: 20 Oct 2007


Oh, please.

----- Original Message ---- From: Patrick King < abrasax93@yahoo.com> To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:14:43 PM Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Two buck books

  

    
            I realize that all of us here love to read about

murder. It's pretty much all I read and write about.

On the other hand, murder actually does happen and

when it touches lives words like "emotions" and

"intelligence" and "fairest" ring pretty smug and

hollow. Imagine a family like Sharon Tate's who for

the last 40 years have made it their main purpose to

go the parole hearings of all 5 of the people

convicted of killing their daughter and sister just so

the American Government doesn't FORGET what they put

those people in prison for and let them out with the

rest of us. Should an American family have to live

like this? A pregnant girl was brutally murdered, the

people who drove the knives into her body are up for

PAROLE and you're lecturing me about "fairness." I'm

not looking for emotional satisfaction. I'm not

looking for revenge. I'm looking for a total solution

to a very specific problem once and for all.

Patrick King

--- Robert Elkin <rictusaporia@ yahoo.com> wrote:

> Probably not, but that's a big DNF in terms of

> argumentative discourse. Being civilized/social is

> all about controlling the impulses with the

> intelligence, finding the best & fairest (not

> necessarily the most emotionally satisfying) ways of

> dealing with problems.

> Or it's all about teacake & jam. I don't really

> remember with certainty.

> Rob

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> ----- Original Message ----

> From: Patrick King <abrasax93@yahoo. com>

> To: rara-avis-l@ yahoogroups. com

> Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 6:58:24 AM

> Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Two buck books

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> I wonder if you'd be as objective if the

> victim was

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> your mother or daughter?

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> Patrick King

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> --- rictusaporia <rictusaporia@ yahoo.com> wrote:

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> > Personally, I prefer the tigers & dogs to those

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> > Rob

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> > --- In rara-avis-l@ yahoogroups. com, Patrick King

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> > > Would we tolerate a tiger wandering the

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> > > neighborhood? Once a dog has bitten a child,

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> > > we do with it? But these people who wander our

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> > > highways killing at whim we have to tolerate

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> > > of some hokus pokus about they're being "human."

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