Re: RARA-AVIS: Cain and Hammett

From: Robert Elkin ( rictusaporia@yahoo.com)
Date: 05 Oct 2007


Patrick: Well, your last sentence is something Spade himself says; as for the rest of it: maybe yes, maybe no [but interesting in any case]. One can form whatever opinion one likes based on the bare facts of the text, but in the end, the ambiguity refuses to go away. And such a thing makes it doubtful that any informed opinion, no matter how much one might disagree with it, could "miss the whole point," as you put it to KS. Rob

----- Original Message ---- From: Patrick King < abrasax93@yahoo.com> To: rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 5, 2007 5:11:22 PM Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Cain and Hammett

  

    
            

--- "Kerry J. Schooley" <gsp.schoo@murderout there.com>

wrote:

> Definitely a hard boiled egg, and heroically so.

> So much so that we want to forget that list of

> reasons he has for

> throwing Brigid over. The list is a repudiation of

> all the human

> qualities required for romantic and Christian love

> to flourish, but

> Spade relies on logic and represses his romantic

> inclinations. He has

> no faith that love and passion can transcend the

> problems of the

> world as he experiences them.

************ ********* ********* *********

I think you're missing the whole point here. Spade was

always playing Brigid. He was never in love with her.

He knew by the time he put her and Joel together, that

it was she who killed Miles AND Thrusby. That whole

speech at the end is said sarcastically as Bogart does

it. "I hope they don't hang you by that pretty neck"

"I'll be waiting for you." He's kidding her and it

dawns on her, as Mary Astor shows, that it's she who's

been played this time. Bridgid is a sociopath, just as

crazy as the rest of them; maybe a little worse. And

Sam Spade is under no illusion. He knew she was lying

when she first came into his office but she overpaid

him enough so it didn't matter.

Patrick King

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