Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Everything's Noir?

From: Kevin Burton Smith (
Date: 21 May 2007

On May 21, 2007, at 1:59 PM, wrote:

> Jim,
> Crime, Western, Sci-Fi, Fantasy, etc, all refer to the stories, to the
> content and forms of the stories, but, as your own definition states,
> noir refers not to content, but presentation of a crime story. As
> such,
> can noir even be a genre of film? As you have argued numerous times,
> with very telling examples, the same exact story, the same content,
> can
> be depicted as noir or not-noir. So given that movies and books, by
> their very media, present stories in different ways, is it really so
> outlandish to think that a term referring to presentation might
> resonate
> differently in the two media?

Is this the same Jim who said only old black and white films could be noir? Or was that someone else?


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