Re: RARA-AVIS: Noir with no crime?

From: Michael Robison (
Date: 11 Jan 2007

Patrick King wrote:

But why stop there? What about Beowulf or Chaucer, or the Legend of Gilgamesh. It's obvious to me the Einkido was the very first noir protagonist that we know of. He predates Cain by a thousand years!

************* Absolutely. Although the hero's bravado and confidence in Beowulf might make it more hardboiled than noir, the dark and sinister mood of noir is still there. Gilgamesh is pure noir. Innocence corrupted by a scheming whore, violence fast and bloody, and the enduring angst and guilt for a lost comrade.

As Charles Willeford wrote, all great literature is depressing. It don't get no better than the worst.


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