Patrick wrote: Surely, Dostoyevsky's "Crime and Punishment"
is the template for all the noir novels that came after
it.
I joke with my husband that Hamlet, Romeo and Juliet, or
Richard III was the first noir. LOL
Amy
--- In
rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com, Patrick King
<abrasax93@...> wrote:
>
> "On the Road" by Jack Kerouac, "Tropic of
Capricorn"
> by Henry Miller, "The Grapes of Wrath" by
John
> Steinbeck although there are murders and other
crimes
> in that one, it's not really 'about' the crimes. To
be
> truly 'noir' though, I think the character has to
be
> driven to positively desperate acts in order
to
> achieve a dream the reader can see clearly he
can
> never achieve due to his character flaws.
Surely,
> Dostoyevsky's "Crime and Punishment" is the
template
> for all the noir novels that came after
it.
>
> Patrick King
> --- Michael Robison <miker_zspider@...>
wrote:
>
> > This was touched on earlier. Noir almost
always
> > involves crime. Can you name any novels that
you
> > consider to be noir that do not involve
crime?
> >
> > Thank you, miker
> >
> >
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