Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Name Your Poison

From: Allan Guthrie (
Date: 01 Sep 2006


If you haven't already checked it out, look out for Titus Andronicus. Shakespeare doesn't get any more outrageous than that.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Michael Robison
  Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 3:21 AM
  Subject: Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Name Your Poison

  Mark wrote:

  It's been a while since I've seen or read MacBeth, so
  I'm probably basing this more on Kurosawa's Throne of
  Blood than MacBeth itself, but didn't the craziness in
  that story come after the fact, brought on by guilt
  for a murder that had been committed with the clear
  motive of advancement?

  Yes. That's why I said that you got to see them
  walking down the path (towards crazy). And also, I
  see your point. Technically, they were doing the
  dirty before they went crazy.

  Shakespeare is great. He's looked at as highbrow now
  but that's not the way it was then. He didn't let the
  subtext get in the way of fun. He was about as
  outrageous as a writer could get by with then. I
  laughed out loud when I read the lewd line about the
  beast with two backs. Bawdy with plenty of gratuitous
  violence. Eye-gouging and sword-stabbing in King
  Lear. Not subtly done off-stage. Hell with that.
  Shakespeare was a crowd-pleaser. And Othello, too. I
  just read that for the first time here recently.
  Can't beat it.


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