Re: RARA-AVIS: Vietnam and hardboiled

From: Ed Lynskey (
Date: 13 Aug 2006

--- Juri Nummelin <> wrote:

> Ed Lynskey:
> > On something else, I wonder how many hardboiled writers came
> > out
> > of the Vietnam War experience? Didn't Crumley serve there?
> Woody Haut discusses this theme in NEON NOIR: alongside
> Crumley
> and this Nam novel, FROM COUNT TO CADENCE, he talks about the
> works of Michael Herr, Tim O'Brien and Newton Thornburg and
> others. Not everything he talks about is crime fiction, but he
> suggests they are noir or at least influential to new noir
> writing of the seventies and eighties. To me, it seemed quite
> convincing.

Right, O'Brien, of course. Thornburg or Herr I haven't read. I'm thinking the Bill Pronzini's Nameless Detective was an MP who came out of the Vietnam experience. I want to read more in that series, particularly the early ones.

Ed Lynskey

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