Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Hardboiled genealogy

From: Karin Montin (
Date: 10 Feb 2006

I took the big brain comment as a humorous, ironic, self-deprecating remark on Brian's part. Having enjoyed some works by Joyce and Ellroy while being unable to get through others by the same authors, I can relate.

Coincidentally, I'm reading Hard-Boiled: An Anthology of American Crime Stories (from the 1920s to the '90s), edited by Bill Pronzini and Jack Adrian. The introduction provides a good history of the development of the hard-boiled genre.

And the TOC lists at least two RA members: James M. Reasoner and Ed Gorman. I can't believe I haven't read this book earlier. I'm really enjoying it.

At 05:22 AM 07/02/2006 -0800, Brian Thornton wrote about White Jazz:

>On the other hand, THE BLACK DAHLIA has a discernible plot, realistic
>dialogue, engaging characters. "Over the top" is one way to describe WHITE
>JAZZ, I suppose. Especially if you finish the description by adding a few
>choices words: "So over the top that it strays into the realm of
>unintentional self-parody." I found it virtually unreadable. So, as I have
>with several of the works of James Joyce and Leo Tolstoy, I'm going to have
>to take the word of far larger brains that it has some sort of literary

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