Re: RARA-AVIS: more noir

From: Kerry J. Schooley (
Date: 10 Nov 2005

At 07:32 AM 10/11/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>Noir switches perspective, and we become the Screwed. With a dash of Crime
>thrown in. The readers are still slumming, but there's a mirror.
>Anybody buy into this?

At least until someone comes up and smacks me for it.

I think a bottom-up point of view is characteristic of noir (working or lower class,) especially in earlier work. Easy to see that the disenfranchised are doomed. But I don't think it essential that a story adopt a working or lower class point of view to be noir. In essence, noir says everyone is screwed. At least that's the definition I've been touting.

I do think though, to some extent, it is the denial of class that has sucked a lot of energy from the genre in more recent times, adopting noir atmospherics in order to talk about good and evil and make noir more acceptable to middle-classes.


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