"D鴯urnement" is also used for "hijacking", as in airplanes
hijackings... jpj On Nov 4, 2005, at 7:36 AM, Steve Novak
wrote:
> Very interesting, thanks ɴienne for these pr飩sions
which are
> certainly
> very useful for non-French speakers...I would simply
add that most
> French
> noir (or assimilated) novels have within their
titles and in the
> body of the
> text, play on words and 'jousts with languages' that
are a very
> integral
> part of this d鴯urnement of language and that this is
linked to
> the writing
> of polemicists in newspapers in France from the time
of the Commune
> to the
> current Canard Encha weekly satirical
newspaper...something
> slightly akin
> to the work of some UK satirical papers and programs
like Monty
> Python...I
> know of no paper (with a national audience and
readership) in the
> US that
> would be the equivalent, but journalistic traditions
and practices are
> different....
>
> One question comes after your answer and Mark's just
before, what
> are the
> best translations of the two terms used so
frequently in talk about
> and by
> French writers and critics: d鴯urnement and d鲩ve...I
have had so
> much
> hesitations when doing translations myself for
Europolar or others...
> Several U. literary profs (both French and Us) give
'drifting' for
> d鲩ve as
> a standard in the academic field, but d鴯urnement
goes from
> 'borrowing'
> (socio-linguistics) to 'avoidance' with many
variations...Is there
> something
> that you feel comfortable in translating those to
words in English
> in the
> context of crime and noir novels.
>
> Thanks in advance for these precisions and again for
the explanations.
>
> Montois de D鴲oit
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