Re: RARA-AVIS: Noir Manifesto

From: Robert Elkin (
Date: 28 Oct 2005

"Supernatural" is a difficult word altogether--for if a thing "is," then it is "natural," not
"supernatural." Rob

--- Michael Robison <> wrote:

> Tribe wrote:
> I don't think that Stansberry sees "the supernatural
> as a significant element" in Poe's detective
> fiction.
> The way I interpret it is that Poe sees the rational
> method of crime-solving as just another
> manifestation
> of the supernatural, according to Stansberry
> "process
> and logic-indeed the act of analysis itself-are
> ultimately viewed as further manifestations of the
> supernatural."
> ***************
> I think the detective's reasoning is a significant
> element in the stories. Stansberry finds his logic
> to
> be a "manifestation of the supernatural." I link
> these two premises and come up with the supernatural
> as a significant part of the stories.
> I didn't see any "manifestation of the supernatural"
> in "Murder in the Rue Morgue" or "The Death of Marie
> Roget".
> His comment about rational thinking being close to
> the
> supernatural is conceivable, since rational thinking
> accepts truth outside experience, but if we're
> playing
> word games and leaning towards that definition, then
> the detective's logic is empirical, not rational,
> and
> I see nothing supernatural about that.
> The essay employs sleight of hand more than once.
> miker
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