Re: RARA-AVIS: Cyberpunk Recomendation?

From: Tribe (
Date: 05 Oct 2005

Tribe wrote:
"I agree with Jess that the cyberpunk titles have little noir sensibility...if anything, they are more hard-boiled in style and feel, if that."

Then Jim Winter wrote:
> So are you suggesting cyberpunk is hardboiled instead? The lone hero
> raging against the machine?

No, not at all. I find very little of relationship between so-called cyberpunk and/or noir and/or hard boiled (aside from the fact that they're books). I mentioned Jeter's Noir in that vein because a hard-boiled style is self-consciously and purposefully used as pastiche, as a prop for the the story.

Any claims to cyberpunk having hard-boiled underpinnings can be blamed on the Bladerunner film.

Jeter's Noir is not bad...there's an interesting sub-plot involving a character who is obviously supposed to be based on Phil K. Dick. The premise of the protagonist being able to "create" a "film noir" world for himself is an interesting conceit, but it loses steam for me. But others may differ.


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