Re: your earlier comments, I just finished KISS HER
GOODBYE
(excellent book) and didn't find the level of violence
extreme or unnecessary for this type of book (or for a
Jacobean drama for that matter--I assume those references
were there for a reason as well). Which leads to another
question concerning the escalation of violence in art. The
17th century lacked the technology to show realistic, graphic
violence on stage, but the body count in something like the
DUCHESS OF MALFI is pretty damn high. Also, I imagine people
were more used to seeing violence in their daily lives and so
didn't need their stage violence to be as graphic for them to
understand what's going on.
Like you fictional violence does not bother me in the way
real violence does, except when it reminds me of real
experiences (seen or felt) of violence. Sometimes if the
violence is too unrealistic it then simply becomes comic, or
at least cartoonish--I haven't seen ICHCI THE KILLER but I
have experienced this in some of Miike's other movies like
DEAD OR ALIVE, which is not to say I don't like his work
greatly just that it has a comic side to it.
Max
>
> To a degree, yes. The level of violence most people
are comfortable
with on
> screen is quite different from what it was, say, in
the '50s.
People are no
> different, so it must be what they're accustomed to
viewing that's
> responsible.
>
> > For
> > instance, no matter how many times I see it,
the curb scene in
American
> > History X will make me cringe. Then again, I
don't think I've
ever
> > really seen it all, as I immediately turn
away.
>
> If you watched it 100 times and didn't turn away,
I'd wager that
the 100th
> time wouldn't affect you as badly as the
first.
>
> > Finally, while a very explicit, graphic movie
scene-- say the one
in
> > Ichi where he skewers the guy's cheek and chin
-- can get to me,
it does
> > not get to me nearly as much as far less
explicit footage of
something I
> > know to be real. They're both just projected
light and shadow,
but my
> > mind supplies very different
contexts.
>
> Me, too. Most fictional violence doesn't bother me
too much,
because I tend
> to remain pretty detached when I'm watching movies
or reading
books, but I'd
> struggle to watch footage of an act of graphic
violence if it was
video
> evidence, say, in a criminal case where I was on
jury duty.
>
> Al
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