Kerry J. Schooley wrote about hardboiled:
Colloquial. Didn't we agree on colloquial as the
characteristic for hard boiled? Not that class entirely
coincides with colloquial, but we're getting awfully close.
So much of it is about the working stiff, or the
disenfranchised. I don't think we're talking Knob Hill
colloquialisms here.
************* No, we didn't agree. The Doherty definition of
tough and colloquial stood hard and fast until Jack Bludis
nailed his infamous "hardboiled = tough" thesis to the
rara-avis door, introducing the heresy that you no longer
have to be colloquial to ascend to hardboiled heaven.
Personally, I agree with both you, Kerry, and Mario, on the
class issue. I think that hardboiled is predominantly
class-based, but if the rich guy can pass through the eye of
a needle, he can be hardboiled too.
miker
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