Re: RARA-AVIS: Kafka

From: Jacques Debierue ( matrxtech@yahoo.com)
Date: 17 Feb 2005


--- In rara-avis-l@yahoogroups.com, "Kerry J. Schooley"
<gsp.schoo@m...> wrote:
<<Colloquial. Didn't we agree on colloquial as the characteristic for hard boiled?

I never did agree with that. For example, Richard Stark's Parker books are not particularly colloquial. Language is not what makes a character hardboiled. It's his attitudes and actions, how he relates to the world. Other examples: Matt Helm, many of Ross Thomas's characters (they are tough as nails, but they speak unremarkable English).

<<Not that class entirely coincides with colloquial, but we're getting awfully close. So much of it is about the working stiff, or the disenfranchised. I don't think we're talking Knob Hill colloquialisms here.>>

Class is revealed in speech, among othe things, but neither it nor speech is the backbone of a hardboiled character.

Best,

MrT

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