Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: Humor and irony in noir

From: Al Guthrie (
Date: 23 Oct 2004

Goodis was more than capable of inserting his own funny lines. My favourite, possibly, from SOMEBODY'S DONE FOR, where a guy, drowning, with no hope of rescue, says to himself: "I don't think you want oblivion. It's very restful, of course, but there's no future in it."

And Morris and Feather in DOWN THERE are practically noir's Laurel and Hardy. " 'The melons?' Morris was playing STRAIGHT MAN [my caps]. 'Who grows them?' " That whole watermelon exchange is highly reminiscent of some of the Jackson/Travolta exchanges in PULP FICTION. The dialogue takes place in a moving car, with the protagonist (Eddie) held at gunpoint, and at one point Feather says to Morris, " 'Put that thing [the gun] away. We hit a bump it might go off.' "

Granted, for the most part Goodis is very serious, but on the odd occasion he reads like Elmore Leonard's older brother.


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Debierue" <> To: <> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 3:43 PM Subject: RARA-AVIS: Re: Humor and irony in noir

> Chandler was a hardboiled writer, not a noir writer. Put some of
> those funny lines into a typical David Goodis downer and see
> where it gets you...
> Best,
> MrT

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