RARA-AVIS: French/Italian names for pulp

From: Steve Novak ( Cinefrog@comcast.net)
Date: 25 Aug 2004

OK...I¹m back home and with five minutes to spare...so here¹s my most useful contributiion:

A book called ³Le Roman Criminel: Histoire, Auteurs, Personnages² was written by Stefano Benvenutti, Gianni Rizzoni and Michel Lebrun with a
Œpr馡ce¹ (foreword) by Jean-Patrick Manchette...It was published in Italy in 1979 and in France at L¹Atalante in 1982...It is one of the best ever written and researched history of the Œcrime novel¹, Œroman policier¹...whatever we call it, in whatever language we try to define it...(and the current debate about what is noir and what is hard-boiled belongs intimatly to these concerns...).

This superb book has a whole chapter called: ³Le crime ࠬ¹italienne² which obviously studies the whole development of the genre in Italy from people like Emiilio De Marchi, thru Olivieri di San Giacomo and Gastone Tanzi before the 2nd World War...of course I have never read anything by these people (and there are many of them quoted here in the book, all the way down to Umberto Eco...) but I¹ve read some of the important Œpersonages¹ like Scerbanenco and Sciascia (in french translations).. In the book the first mention of Œgialli¹ is at page 184 of my edition and it reads as such (my translation from french):

³But it is only in 1929, when the ³Gialli Mondadori² gets born, that a public is created for this type of literature and also a Œteam¹ of italian authors ­all of which were more or less faithfull to the rules of the anglo-saxon police novel or to the precepts of Georges Simenon²

...in subsequent pages the authors of this book talk about the important involvement of Arnoldo Mondatori (the creator of the gialli) in the resurgence of the Œitalian written¹gialli in the middle of the 50¹s, with the publication of a lot of newi talian authors...

The book is wonderful anyway and very instructive about the whole history of the genre and the /analitical-critical eye that a set of critics/writers themselves gave to the genre...check it out....(amazon or e-bay should be the only avenues I guess...)

Steve Novak...le Montois de D鴲oit

 On 8/24/04 8:34, "E.Borgers" < wbac12034@tiscali.be> wrote:

> Never heard any words including "jaune" to qualify a genre of mystery
> lit. in France!
> In Italy, yes : it became a generic word for mystery lit (refer to
> Luca's explanation).
> Now, the vocabulary naming genres in popular lit. in any country is
> always fuzzy and evolving along the years, even if some epressions stays
> long.
> In French we speak of "litt鲡ture polici貥" (police lit) and "roman
> policier" (police novel).
> The latest name was transformed during the 70s into "polar" a colloquial
> word forged at the time.
> A noir novel belonging to mystery lit will be qualified now as "polar
> noir" in French.
> On the other hand, an example of another fuzzy term is a word that
> introduced recently a lot of confusion in English: pulp(s).
> Originally they were magazines of all genres. In which you could find
> some mystery writers and even the ancestors and founders of the modern
> HB/noir American lit.
> Even if we could speak of "pulp writers" or "pulp fiction" as a
> reference to the golden age of these magazines, to qualify later writers
> (40s onwards) of the same tradition, their publications were no more
> "pulps" as such... they were paperbacks and PBO. But others on this list
> could probably give you a wider and better analysis of the meaning and
> evolution of the word "pulp".
> E.Borgers
> http://www.geocities.com/Athens/6384/books.html
> http://www.geocities.com/polarnoir
>> >
>> >On 8/22/04 22:12, "William Denton" < buff@pobox.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>> >>I'm passing on another question from Toni Johnson-Woods, the Australian
>>> >>academic. Drop her a quick note if you know the answer.
>>> >>
>>> >>| From: Dr Toni Margaret JOHNSON-WOODS < t.johnsonwoods@uq.edu.au>
>>> >>|
>>> >>| Could you please ask the pundits who know all --I've read somewhere that
>>> >>| une jaune (French) and un giallo (Italian) are shorthand for "pulp
>>> >>| fiction" ie mass produced fiction of the 1940s, 1950s ie Carter Brown
>>> >>| and ilk (not nec pulp magazine fiction)? Can anyone confirm? deny?
>>> >>| Second, does anyone know if there are other names ie German, Spanish
>>> >>| etc??? Probably private replies are best???
>>> >>|
>>> >>|
>>> >>| Thanks so much.
>>> >>| Dr Toni Johnson-Woods
>>> >>| Contemporary Studies
>>> >>| University of Queensland
>>> >>| Australia.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Bill
>>> >>
>>> >>
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