Re: RARA-AVIS: Re: RARA-AVIS Digest V6 #145

From: Mark Sullivan (
Date: 15 May 2004

Donna wrote:

"For me, 'hardboiled' holds out some hope, whereas 'noir' doesn't. There's something compelling about a noir protagonist that keeps you reading, and, sometimes, hoping that he'll win through, even though you know that any light at the end of the tunnel is just a really, really big train."

This describes a lot of the difference for me, too, the idea of hope and the possibility of its realization. A favorite quote of mine comes from the (un-noir) movie Clockwise: "It's not the despair, Laura. I can stand the despair. It's the hope." There may be hope in noir, but it ain't going to be realized.


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