Re: RARA-AVIS: Hardboiled Politics

Date: 24 Jul 2003


Re your comments below:

> Let's debate "What is hardboiled?" and
> "What is
> noir?" instead.

No need to. "Hardboiled" is "tough and colloquial."
"Noir" is "dark and sinister." The matters have already been settled.

> Or, to make it easier, "What is the
> difference between hardboiled and noir and, should
> these be
> proven to be intersecting genres, what is the extent
> of
> such an intersection, what are representative
> examples of
> hardnoir, and what are some useful criteria for
> telling
> without reading the works in question?".

Again, already settled. If it's tough and colloquial, it's hardboiled. If it's dark and sinister it's noir.
 If it's tough and colloquial, and dark and sinister, it's both hardboiled and noir.

And, BTW, Grafton and Paretsky both have enough
"gravitas" to be spoken of here without embarassment.



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