JM Cain is an author difficult to grab as a whole: besides
his best known novels, which are his best works in fact
(Postman, Indemnity, Butterfly, Mildred Pierce and Serenade-
and I will add Galatea, another very disturbing picture of a
woman), he produced a lot of novels showing no particular
innovation and of very low interest. In his best novels, fate
plays always a tremendous role, often destroying the evil
plots of the main character(s), and in a certain way there is
always a tragedy that develops along the main story. So, I
think yes, even Mildred Pierce could be placed under the noir
flag... On the other hand, I read it a long time ago, so I
cannot go in factual
*details* of the plot to document any point of view further.
And yes, Cain could be prolix and this made some of his bad
novels even worse... Cain's biblio. is also rather
prolific.
One thing to remember is the very high opinion JM Cain had of
himself as a writer, that made him to declare silly things as
" ... my novels are not tough and do not belong to any school
of writing..." to defend himself to be placed next to the
other great Americans founders of noir and hard-boiled. But
he was unquestionably one of the great noir authors, one of
the founders of the American noir lit., willing or not, just
because of his handful of best novels.
E.Borgers Hard-Boiled Mysteries http://www.geocities.com/Athens/6384
At 12:16 11-07-03 -0400, Jay Gertzman wrote:
>I am going to lead a discussion soon at the local
B&N of Cain's
>_Mildred Pierce_. I am not sure it fits into the noir
tradition, in that
>there is no crime committed. And the darn thing is
prolix. However, it
>is certainly hard boiled, and the motivations of both
Mildred and Veda
>are fascinating. They seems to be the only characters
with power and
>control, except for Mildred's mentor and friend Mrs.
Gessler. It seems
>to me the Depression is a powerful force in the book,
and that Mildred
>especially gets the desperation to succeed
financially from it. Yet is
>it more responsible for what Mildred does than is
Veda, and is Mildred
>responsible for Veda's feelings for her? Is Veda a
monster or is she
>also a victim of fate, i.e., the Depression? I'd
appreciate any ideas.
>Thanks
>
>
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